Radiator woes - UPDATE

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 01/09/2018 at 13:59 • Filed to: None

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UPDATE - I ordered a CSF all metal 3 row brass unit from Rockauto. still spendy but $100 less than OE and will get here Thursday.

What would you do?

OE at $500 but here tomorrow and a guaranteed fit

KOYORAD at $250 here Friday hoping it arrives intact and fit.

History - I bought a KOYORAD and it arrived damaged. So I bought another brand from a local radiator shop that didn’t fit. So they ordered another one, that one burnt down fell over then sank into the swamp also didn’t fit (looked to be the exact same radiator in a different box).

I have one hour to decide before I miss my OE shipping window.

The time factor is a big deal but not as big as it used to be...I mean I just can’t let it stretch out into another week. I need it by this weekend and it needs to work.

thoughts?

HammerheadFistpunch > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:06

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I guess I could order 2 KOYO and ship one back.

vicali > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:07

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Better start putting your initials on the returns..

jimz > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:09

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if this car’s a keeper I’d suck it up and get the OE. 3 out of 3 misses with aftermarket is more than enough.

and starred for the Holy Grail reference.

crowmolly > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:09

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Local rad shop can’t fix the broken one I presume?

HammerheadFistpunch > crowmolly 01/09/2018 at 14:11

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Its a thought. I don’t know if they do that anymore. They did big radiators for 20 years but may not do that. I’ll ask though.

jimz > crowmolly 01/09/2018 at 14:11

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usually the most you can do with a modern radiator is replace/re-gasket the side tanks. you can’t solder aluminum like you could the old brass ones.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:12

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This sounds like a lot of hassle for a radiator.. Able to just find one on rockauto or amazon that is known to fit? Id just get the OE one if I couldnt get one faster via those sources. The best part is always the one I can get NOW. Hate waiting for crap to ship when I finally have the time to do the repair.

HammerheadFistpunch > jimz 01/09/2018 at 14:13

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Its funny, they told me the opposite. I just called and they said they can’t do tank to tube interface repairs but they can do core repairs. since my is leaking at both tanks...

HammerheadFistpunch > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 01/09/2018 at 14:14

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The koyo is a promised fit, and I can order one from Amazon, but I don’t want to seal with another damaged in transit unit.

Nothing > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:16

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I’d go OEM at this point.

HammerheadFistpunch > Nothing 01/09/2018 at 14:17

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Normally I wouldn’t hesitate, but:

1. the leaky one IS a fairly new OE unit

2. $500

jimz > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:17

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maybe things have changed. perhaps they can do precision welding.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:19

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Is it sold by amazon or just listed on there? And do you need the vehicle immediately or does it really not matter? Thats a significant savings and I trust stuff sold by amazon to get to me safely, or its at least properly insured anyways. But yeah its not a bad idea to order two and return one if its broken haha.

CalzoneGolem > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:20

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Rolling up to the pick and pull not an option?

Textured Soy Protein > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:20

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Any shops near you carry CSF (or can order it)? Your part # is 2517 and it’s all metal, no plastic end tanks. RockAuto has 1 in stock but their expedited shipping is pricey. Amazon is 3rd party seller, not prime. RockAuto also has Denso 2219362 which I assume is the OE part for well under $200 before shipping.  

Future next gen S2000 owner > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:21

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Phst. Just pour water over the block. You’ll be fine.

Urambo Tauro > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:22

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The damage was probably a fluke. You have a right to be pissed, but I wouldn’t boycott them over it. You can ask them to package the next one more carefully, or maybe choose another delivery service. If they promised a direct fit, they have to deliver on that, period. If they screw up a second time, then maybe it’s time to get a full refund and never buy their stuff again.

Alfalfa > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:22

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BURN IT ALL TO THE GROUND.

HammerheadFistpunch > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 01/09/2018 at 14:22

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listed. The trouble is I need the car, frankly this week but next week for sure.

HammerheadFistpunch > CalzoneGolem 01/09/2018 at 14:22

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no one local pick and pull has decent cruiser parts here. Its fighting for scraps.

crowmolly > jimz 01/09/2018 at 14:23

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I think it may depend on the shop. The place near me won’t boil out a used radiator... but they can do repairs and can even custom TIG one for you if necessary.

CalzoneGolem > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:26

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local pick and pull ... fighting for scraps

I mean ... it is a scrap yard ... I think that’s how it works.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:27

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Well the absolute need would solve that decision for you. If its not sold by amazon, delivery isnt guaranteed by Friday anyways. Have you checked rock auto? I have found their shipping to be very reliable and prices competitive. And do the box stores have anything worth considering?

HammerheadFistpunch > Textured Soy Protein 01/09/2018 at 14:30

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Turns out denso isn’t the OE supplier and I hear they aren’t well liked for durability.

HammerheadFistpunch > CalzoneGolem 01/09/2018 at 14:32

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What I mean is that the parts that are left aren’t really parts that are problem areas or important parts. All the good stuff has been picked over.

Nothing > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:36

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Good points on both accounts. Hopefully the aftermarket one would fit correctly. I will say, your recent adventures continue to sway me away from an 80.

Which is the more common issue? OEM ones to leak, or aftermarket ones to not fit?

Cash Rewards > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:37

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Sorry I can’t be of more help, I’m just here for the Monty Python references, and to remind you that watery tarts lobbing scimitars is no way establish a system of government

Textured Soy Protein > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:38

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See if there’s a CSF dealer near you then?

CalzoneGolem > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:41

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I know what you meant.

IMO the OEM rad is a waste since they seem to have a tendency to leak.

HammerheadFistpunch > Urambo Tauro 01/09/2018 at 14:45

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I already got a refund from them, I wont order them them again on account of how slow they were to start.

HammerheadFistpunch > Textured Soy Protein 01/09/2018 at 14:46

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yes, but no Toyota stock. Think about getting the CSF from rock auto

HammerheadFistpunch > Nothing 01/09/2018 at 14:47

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I’d chalk this up to bad luck more than anything else. My experiences with the 80 seem to indicate that things I touch break, things MR. T did, are all still working great.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:49

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(I knew that’s what you meant...)

I’d go OE but see if someone could get me a discount. My pal owns a shop and I can get his prices on most things.

HammerheadFistpunch > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/09/2018 at 14:52

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I asked my discount people and one is out of town until the 15th and can’t do it, the other is out of state and getting it to me would come out to about the same.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:57

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Have you spoken with any radiator shops who build or rebuild radiators to see if there are any other options?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 14:59

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All-metal three-row brass... Sounds good. I don’t like plastic radiators. How many miles/years did the first one last?

HammerheadFistpunch > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/09/2018 at 15:02

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I have, and with the leak I have its a no go.

HammerheadFistpunch > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/09/2018 at 15:02

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original was toast at 220k when I bought it, I replaced it around 230 and this one when at 295k so about 75k miles. Holy crap I drive this car a lot.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 15:03

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I was thinking less along the lines of a repair than perhaps just making one.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 15:04

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That car’s been driven a lot!

HammerheadFistpunch > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/09/2018 at 15:05

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yeah, its seen some things. Its hard to find an 80 series that hasn’t though. There are more than a handfull of 400,000+ mile cruisers on the forums.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 15:07

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What car is it?

HammerheadFistpunch > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/09/2018 at 15:10

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The land cruiser (80 series).

adamftw > HammerheadFistpunch 01/09/2018 at 21:29

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Good deal. Never had any issues with CSF in multiple applications.